Season Pass question / problem
 

My DTV TIVO just let me down. I'm guessing that it is because I don't fully understand
its logic.

There's a series on SciFi that was cancelled but they still showed eps now and then.
I had a season pass set to record new and rerun episodes. Everything went well for
several weeks and I had a small collection of random episodes.

This month SciFi decided to run all eps in sequence from the beginning. I deleted
all the old ones so that I would have them all in order.

Yesterday, the last day of the series, TIVO recorded NOTHING. All the scheduled
eps were ones that had previously been recorded and deleted. Huge bummer since these
were the ones that were most important to me.

I then looked at the future schedule and TIVO said that it wasn't going to record any of
them either.

My question: Do I only get one chance? If something has been recorded and deleted
does it mean that TIVO will never record it again unless I force it?

If I cancel my Season Pass and then restart it will TIVO reset and record them all again?

Thanks for your help.

--
Donald Granger

On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 20:40:08 GMT, in article
, "Donald Granger"
wrote:


My question: Do I only get one chance? If something has been recorded and deleted
does it mean that TIVO will never record it again unless I force it?

Unless set to "all with duplicates", Tivo season pass/wishlist won't
record the same show twice within a 28 day period. After 28 days it
will record it again if it matches the other parameters.

If shows are important to you, it's important to check the "to-do list"
once a week to see that Tivo's logic agrees with yours so you can
override if necessary...


If I cancel my Season Pass and then restart it will TIVO reset and record them all again?

Setting the SP to "all with duplicates" would be the way to do it, if
they are airing again within 28 days.
--
Stephen Tu

"Donald Granger" wrote in message
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My DTV TIVO just let me down. I'm guessing that it is because I don't fully
understand
its logic.

There's a series on SciFi that was cancelled but they still showed eps now
and then.
I had a season pass set to record new and rerun episodes. Everything went
well for
several weeks and I had a small collection of random episodes.

This month SciFi decided to run all eps in sequence from the beginning. I
deleted
all the old ones so that I would have them all in order.

Yesterday, the last day of the series, TIVO recorded NOTHING. All the
scheduled
eps were ones that had previously been recorded and deleted. Huge bummer
since these
were the ones that were most important to me.

I then looked at the future schedule and TIVO said that it wasn't going to
record any of
them either.

My question: Do I only get one chance? If something has been recorded and
deleted
does it mean that TIVO will never record it again unless I force it?

If I cancel my Season Pass and then restart it will TIVO reset and record
them all again?

Thanks for your help.

--
Donald Granger

The Last episodes of farscape will be playing at the late Thursday/ early
Friday during the next two weeks. It should be the last 6 eps. then it
starts with the Premiere again.

"xzavior" wrote in message
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Yesterday, the last day of the series, TIVO recorded NOTHING. All the
scheduled
eps were ones that had previously been recorded and deleted. Huge bummer
since these
were the ones that were most important to me.

I then looked at the future schedule and TIVO said that it wasn't going to
record any of
them either.

My question: Do I only get one chance? If something has been recorded
and deleted
does it mean that TIVO will never record it again unless I force it?

If your season pass is set to record First Run and Repeats, it will only
record the same episode once in a period of 28 days, you will have to set
your season pass to record all including duplicates, but this can get tricky
if the network start re-airing the same episone over and over, you will fill
up your Tivo in no time. I understand your logic of wanting the shows in
order, you will have to use your Season pass to list all upcoming episodes
and manually select all the shows.


If I cancel my Season Pass and then restart it will TIVO reset and record
them all again?

I doubt it, it will still have a history of the episode being recorded in
the previous 28 days.

Donald Granger wrote:

This month SciFi decided to run all eps in sequence from the beginning.
Yesterday, the last day of the series, TIVO recorded NOTHING.

1) Go to the To Do list, select Recording History, and read the reason
why TiVo chose not to record it.

2) Go to the Season Pass and make sure you've told it to keep all episodes.
(The default is to keep only five.)

3) Set the Season Pass to record all showings (with duplicates). Then
go to the View Upcoming Showings screen and check the recordings.

-Joe

"Stephane Beaudry" wrote in message
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I doubt it, it will still have a history of the episode being recorded in
the previous 28 days.

Just a slight distinction: I don't think it is "recorded in the last 28
days", rather it is a matter of if it has "appeared in Now Showing" in the
past 28 days". Meaning, even if it was recorded 6 months ago and you
finally deleted it today, that episode won't be re-recorded for at least 28
days, not tomorrow.

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I doubt it, it will still have a history of the episode being recorded in
the previous 28 days.

Just a slight distinction: I don't think it is "recorded in the last 28
days", rather it is a matter of if it has "appeared in Now Showing" in the
past 28 days". Meaning, even if it was recorded 6 months ago and you
finally deleted it today, that episode won't be re-recorded for at least 28
days, not tomorrow.



That theory would be plausible if the deletion of a 6 month old
recording was shown in View Recording History.
Recording History doesn't list items recorded more than 28 days ago,
regardless of when the recording is deleted.

On our two DirecTV DVRs, the convention seems to be that episodes tagged
as "Deleted" in Recording History won't be interpreted as new episodes.

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I doubt it, it will still have a history of the episode being recorded
in
the previous 28 days.

Just a slight distinction: I don't think it is "recorded in the last 28
days", rather it is a matter of if it has "appeared in Now Showing" in
the
past 28 days". Meaning, even if it was recorded 6 months ago and you
finally deleted it today, that episode won't be re-recorded for at least
28
days, not tomorrow.



That theory would be plausible if the deletion of a 6 month old
recording was shown in View Recording History.
Recording History doesn't list items recorded more than 28 days ago,
regardless of when the recording is deleted.

On our two DirecTV DVRs, the convention seems to be that episodes tagged
as "Deleted" in Recording History won't be interpreted as new episodes.

Then apparently my DirecTiVos operate differently than yours somehow as this
is exactly what happened just this week. I keep a backlog of "Stargate
SG-1" episodes for background noise when working. I deleted an old (many
months old) episode this past week after watching it and it did NOT that
specific episode record a few days later and when I looked in recording
history to see why it gave the 28 day rule as the reason.

There is more info in the database inside the TiVos than that is shown via
the UI.

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I doubt it, it will still have a history of the episode being recorded
in
the previous 28 days.

Just a slight distinction: I don't think it is "recorded in the last 28
days", rather it is a matter of if it has "appeared in Now Showing" in
the
past 28 days". Meaning, even if it was recorded 6 months ago and you
finally deleted it today, that episode won't be re-recorded for at least
28
days, not tomorrow.



That theory would be plausible if the deletion of a 6 month old
recording was shown in View Recording History.
Recording History doesn't list items recorded more than 28 days ago,
regardless of when the recording is deleted.

On our two DirecTV DVRs, the convention seems to be that episodes tagged
as "Deleted" in Recording History won't be interpreted as new episodes.

Then apparently my DirecTiVos operate differently than yours somehow as this
is exactly what happened just this week. I keep a backlog of "Stargate
SG-1" episodes for background noise when working. I deleted an old (many
months old) episode this past week after watching it and it did NOT that
specific episode record a few days later and when I looked in recording
history to see why it gave the 28 day rule as the reason.

There is more info in the database inside the TiVos than that is shown via
the UI.



Point for Seth.
I just now looked in Recording History for something that will not record.
The message *does* say that the program appeared in the Now Playing List
or the To Do List within the last 28 days.

Now we should figure out why programs have original air dates in the future
after they have been recorded. I have an episode of "The Journal Editorial Report"
in Now Playing that was recorded on 10/10 which lists an original air date of 10/15.

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Now we should figure out why programs have original air dates in the
future
after they have been recorded. I have an episode of "The Journal
Editorial Report"
in Now Playing that was recorded on 10/10 which lists an original air date
of 10/15.


You got me on that one. I have seen "new episodes" with airing dates prior
to the actual recording date (very common example of this was back when new
episodes of "Andromeda" recording on WB days after their "original air
date") but I believe the formula for that was "as long as the original air
date was within 2 weeks of TiVo-specific recording date".

My only *guess* is the "original air date" for that program was *intended*
for 10/15, but due to rescheduling aired early. Was that aired on the
channel, local for you, that was supposed to show Game 3 of the ALCS
playoffs but didn't due to being rained out?

Only a guess here.