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Pheff March 18th 04 11:02 PM

copying Tivo to DVD
 
Has anyone tried copying video off tivo onto a standalone DVD
recorder?

I'm looking to easily save off shows from a Series2 Tivo to a
Panasonic standalone DVD recorder via the composite or s-video
connections. I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work - just want
to know if somebody tried it already.

Thanks,

David G. March 19th 04 12:00 AM

Pheff wrote:
Has anyone tried copying video off tivo onto a standalone DVD
recorder?

I'm looking to easily save off shows from a Series2 Tivo to a
Panasonic standalone DVD recorder via the composite or s-video
connections. I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work - just want
to know if somebody tried it already.

Thanks,


It works. Use S-Video before composite.

--
David G.

jim March 19th 04 02:54 AM

Try using TyTools for video extraction. That way you wont loose a
generation.
"Pheff" wrote in message
om...
Has anyone tried copying video off tivo onto a standalone DVD
recorder?

I'm looking to easily save off shows from a Series2 Tivo to a
Panasonic standalone DVD recorder via the composite or s-video
connections. I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work - just want
to know if somebody tried it already.

Thanks,




Matt Ackeret March 19th 04 03:33 AM

In article ,
David G. wrote:
Pheff wrote:
Has anyone tried copying video off tivo onto a standalone DVD
recorder?

I'm looking to easily save off shows from a Series2 Tivo to a
Panasonic standalone DVD recorder via the composite or s-video
connections. I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work - just want
to know if somebody tried it already.

Thanks,


It works. Use S-Video before composite.


I have no personal experience with this (yet), but many of the people
on avsforum.com's DVD recorder section, who are way bigger video quality
addicts than I am, say that the composite connection unintuitively works
better on the Panasonic recorders.

I think it has to do with the composite going through a TBC and S-video not,
or some other filtering.

Basically, I'd try a few examples of both and use whichever looks best.

BTW, if you haven't bought the Panasonic yet, there are new ones coming
out soon, next month or in May. I suggest one of the ones with a hard drive
so you can do PVR things on it, and edit recordings before burning to DVD.

Bill S. March 19th 04 03:43 PM

"jim" wrote in message news:[email protected]
Try using TyTools for video extraction. That way you wont loose a
generation.
"Pheff" wrote in message
om...
Has anyone tried copying video off tivo onto a standalone DVD
recorder?

I'm looking to easily save off shows from a Series2 Tivo to a
Panasonic standalone DVD recorder via the composite or s-video
connections. I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work - just want
to know if somebody tried it already.

Thanks,


I have both a DirecTivo and Standalone Series 2. I copy using
S-Video, and use my camcorder to do the Digital conversion so that I
can edit on my computer. If I am not mistaken, you cannot use TyTools
for video extraction with a Series 2. It only works with the original
Series 1 Tivo's.

If you do purchase a standalone DVD recorder, make sure you get one
with a Hard Drive otherwise you will not be able to do smooth edits to
remove commercials. Even then, you are limited to just cutting out
material, you cannot add transitions or fades to further smooth out
the edit. Also, make sure you select a model that records to DVD-RW
or +RW. That way, if you are not happy with the results, you can
re-record it with wasting a DVDR.

I tried a standalone myself, but was not happy with the limited
features. I did do all the editing on my computer, so I was able to
make professional looking edits. I would them feed the finished video
into the standalone to create the final DVD. However, I was still
stuck the crummy menus the standalone created. I was also not happy
with the lack of being able to place chapter stops exactly where I
wanted them. I understand that some recorders allow flexible chapter
stop placement using the VR mode, but those DVD's will not play on
most DVD players.

Of course, the big disadvantage of using a computer is the slow
rendering times. I just purchased a P4 3.0 ghz. A two hour video
takes 4.5 hours to render. My old P3 866 mhz took 14 hours.

ack March 21st 04 04:06 AM


"Bill S." wrote in message
m...
"jim" wrote in message

news:[email protected]
Try using TyTools for video extraction. That way you wont loose a
generation.
"Pheff" wrote in message
om...
Has anyone tried copying video off tivo onto a standalone DVD
recorder?

I'm looking to easily save off shows from a Series2 Tivo to a
Panasonic standalone DVD recorder via the composite or s-video
connections. I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work - just want
to know if somebody tried it already.

Thanks,


I have both a DirecTivo and Standalone Series 2. I copy using
S-Video, and use my camcorder to do the Digital conversion so that I
can edit on my computer. If I am not mistaken, you cannot use TyTools
for video extraction with a Series 2. It only works with the original
Series 1 Tivo's.

If you do purchase a standalone DVD recorder, make sure you get one
with a Hard Drive otherwise you will not be able to do smooth edits to
remove commercials. Even then, you are limited to just cutting out
material, you cannot add transitions or fades to further smooth out
the edit. Also, make sure you select a model that records to DVD-RW
or +RW. That way, if you are not happy with the results, you can
re-record it with wasting a DVDR.

I tried a standalone myself, but was not happy with the limited
features. I did do all the editing on my computer, so I was able to
make professional looking edits. I would them feed the finished video
into the standalone to create the final DVD. However, I was still
stuck the crummy menus the standalone created. I was also not happy
with the lack of being able to place chapter stops exactly where I
wanted them. I understand that some recorders allow flexible chapter
stop placement using the VR mode, but those DVD's will not play on
most DVD players.

Of course, the big disadvantage of using a computer is the slow
rendering times. I just purchased a P4 3.0 ghz. A two hour video
takes 4.5 hours to render. My old P3 866 mhz took 14 hours.


As an experiment, I took a Futurama episode off my DirecTiVo's analog
outputs, ran it through an active switcher (loss) and into my 2.4Gig Dell
encoding with a Pinnacle DV 500+ card (one technical generation generation
behind) and editied the commercials out with Premiere 6.5.

After encoding it with Adobe's MPEG encoder (not the best choice, but the
quickest) and authoring with Tmpg's MPEG authoring aplication, I burned it
to DVD.

The result from a broadcast engineer's perspective: Not bad. A little noise
and slightly washed out color but digital artifacts are nearly
imperceptable! Its better looking than scene changes on a SciFi program
(SciFi gets the blank compressed out of their feed on DirecTV). It would
look even better if I fed the DirecTiVo output "directly" into the encoder
and used the S-video input path.

Ack



trooper2 June 8th 04 04:47 AM

On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 20:54:35 -0500, "jim" wrote:

Try using TyTools for video extraction. That way you wont loose a
generation.
"Pheff" wrote in message
. com...
Has anyone tried copying video off tivo onto a standalone DVD
recorder?

I'm looking to easily save off shows from a Series2 Tivo to a
Panasonic standalone DVD recorder via the composite or s-video
connections. I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work - just want
to know if somebody tried it already.

Thanks,



Jim, I've successfully transfered .ty and converted to .mpg using
TyTools, however even after searching the online dealsdatabase am
unsure of how to convert to DVD. Do you know of an online guide that
explains how to do this? If you have multiple short shows (30 mins
each), how do you make a DVD for playing in a standalone DVD player
(no menu necessary) that allows you to have all shows vs. a 30 min
show per DVD? Thanks.

Joe Smith June 8th 04 05:40 AM

trooper2 wrote:

If you have multiple short shows (30 mins
each), how do you make a DVD for playing in a standalone DVD player
(no menu necessary) that allows you to have all shows vs. a 30 min
show per DVD? Thanks.


Drag and drop the files onto a DVD-Builder program, like the one
from Roxio. Delete the looping menu video and put all four 30-minute
shows as consecutive clips of a single program.
-Joe

Lenroc June 8th 04 06:45 AM

On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 22:47:35 -0400, trooper2 wrote:

I've successfully transfered .ty and converted to .mpg using
TyTools, however even after searching the online dealsdatabase am
unsure of how to convert to DVD. Do you know of an online guide that
explains how to do this?


The manual for TyTools explains how to do this. ;)

--
Lenroc

Joe Smith June 16th 04 09:07 AM

Gern Blanston wrote:

Where's the best guide for newbies to set up the basic networking
software on a Tivo series 1 so that I can even try using Tytools?


1) Buy a TiVo-specific ethernet card. http://www.9thtee.com/tivoupgrades.htm
2) Follow the instructions. http://www.silicondust.com/forum/
That's it.
-Joe

Steve K. June 17th 04 12:02 AM

Gern Blanston wrote:

Where's the best guide for newbies to set up the basic networking
software on a Tivo series 1 so that I can even try using Tytools?


Or just pick up a Canopus ADVC-100 and pull your footage in throough
firewire. Works great!

Lenroc June 17th 04 12:17 AM

On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 22:02:49 +0000, Steve K. wrote:

Or just pick up a Canopus ADVC-100 and pull your footage in throough
firewire. Works great!


With an extra D/A and A/D conversion, yes.

--
Lenroc

Eric R. June 17th 04 03:46 PM

"Steve K." wrote in message ink.net...

Or just pick up a Canopus ADVC-100 and pull your footage in throough
firewire. Works great!


Yep, I have a Canopus ADVC-100 and it's flawless. If you just need
input, the Canopus ADVC-50 is just as good (and cheaper).

-Eric


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