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Robert M. March 17th 04 11:12 PM

In article ,
(MegaZone) wrote:

Yeah, 'Robert M' is really smelling


very olfactory of you. Does not change the facts. Too bad you came into
this thread in the middle.

MegaZone March 18th 04 01:02 AM

"Robert M." shaped the electrons to say:
very olfactory of you. Does not change the facts. Too bad you came into
this thread in the middle.


I've read the thread from the start.

You started out OK then hooked a left into paranoia/trollville. The
fact that you don't seem willing to contact JET casts all previous
claims into doubt. It is suspicious that someone who claims to have
made other attempts now doesn't seem willing to accept an offer of
help from someone best suited to help - highly suspicious. And you
wouldn't be the first person to make up claims.

-MZ, RHCE #806199299900541, ex-CISSP #3762
--
URL:mailto:megazoneatmegazone.org Gweep, Discordian, Author, Engineer, me.
"A little nonsense now and then, is relished by the wisest men" 508-755-4098
URL:http://www.megazone.org/ URL:http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ Eris



MegaZone March 18th 04 01:04 AM

"Robert M." shaped the electrons to say:
Fine I gave him the name of the Pioneer guy that signed the letter.


And without details from you on your unit - probably the TSN at a
*minimum*, it doesn't do much good.

"Yeah, some random guy on a USENet group who won't even reveal his
contact info claims you sent him a letter."

Right.

How the hell can they investigate the claim without firm identifying
information?

-MZ, RHCE #806199299900541, ex-CISSP #3762
--
URL:mailto:megazoneatmegazone.org Gweep, Discordian, Author, Engineer, me.
"A little nonsense now and then, is relished by the wisest men" 508-755-4098
URL:http://www.megazone.org/ URL:http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ Eris

Jack Ak March 18th 04 03:29 AM


"MegaZone" wrote in message ...
"Robert M." shaped the electrons to say:
very olfactory of you. Does not change the facts. Too bad you came into
this thread in the middle.


I've read the thread from the start.

You started out OK then hooked a left into paranoia/trollville. The
fact that you don't seem willing to contact JET casts all previous
claims into doubt. It is suspicious that someone who claims to have
made other attempts now doesn't seem willing to accept an offer of
help from someone best suited to help - highly suspicious. And you
wouldn't be the first person to make up claims.


Robert M.'s credibility was exposed when he stated he had "opted out"
of 3rd party sharing 7 years ago, before "opt out" options were offered.


Robert M. March 18th 04 12:12 PM

In article ,
(MegaZone) wrote:

Right.

How the hell can they investigate the claim without firm identifying
information?


Please read the whole thread before you start TROLLing.

Robert M. March 18th 04 12:13 PM

In article ,
(MegaZone) wrote:

"Robert M." shaped the electrons to say:
very olfactory of you. Does not change the facts. Too bad you came into
this thread in the middle.


I've read the thread from the start.

You started out OK then hooked a left into paranoia/trollville. The
fact that you don't seem willing to contact JET casts all previous
claims into doubt.


The fact that he is unwilling to contact Pioneer casts his claims in
doubt.

Robert M. March 18th 04 12:14 PM

In article ,
"Jack Ak" wrote:

Robert M.'s credibility was exposed when he stated he had "opted out"
of 3rd party sharing 7 years ago, before "opt out" options were offered.


Nice try. 3rd party with DirecTv, not Tivo

Robert M. March 18th 04 06:14 PM

In article ,
Howard . wrote:

Since you have demonstrated you don't care to help yourself


Again another perosn who hasnt followed the thread. I contacted:

DirecTv
Tivo
Pioneer and recounted that.

Jack Ak March 18th 04 08:59 PM


"Robert M." wrote in message ...
In article ,
"Jack Ak" wrote:

Robert M.'s credibility was exposed when he stated he had "opted out"
of 3rd party sharing 7 years ago, before "opt out" options were offered.


Nice try. 3rd party with DirecTv, not Tivo


Yeah, that was obvious. DirecTV, Philips and TiVo weren't offering
the "opt-out" choice 7 years ago. No one was offering "opt-out" because
they were not required by Federal law to do so.


MegaZone March 18th 04 09:38 PM

"Robert M." shaped the electrons to say:
Again another perosn who hasnt followed the thread. I contacted:

DirecTv
Tivo
Pioneer and recounted that.


So you claim - and I'm not sure I believe you since you couldn't be
bothered to talk to the person who was listening.

So, are you lying or just dumb?

-MZ, RHCE #806199299900541, ex-CISSP #3762
--
URL:mailto:megazoneatmegazone.org Gweep, Discordian, Author, Engineer, me.
"A little nonsense now and then, is relished by the wisest men" 508-755-4098
URL:http://www.megazone.org/ URL:http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ Eris



MegaZone March 18th 04 09:39 PM

"Robert M." shaped the electrons to say:
Please read the whole thread before you start TROLLing.


Again, I have read the *entire* thread. I stand by what I said.

You'd either lying or an idiot - those are the only two options I see
for not contacting JET.

-MZ, RHCE #806199299900541, ex-CISSP #3762
--
URL:mailto:megazoneatmegazone.org Gweep, Discordian, Author, Engineer, me.
"A little nonsense now and then, is relished by the wisest men" 508-755-4098
URL:http://www.megazone.org/ URL:http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ Eris



Robert M. March 18th 04 10:40 PM

In article ,
(MegaZone) wrote:

"Robert M." shaped the electrons to say:
Please read the whole thread before you start TROLLing.


Again, I have read the *entire* thread. I stand by what I said.

You'd either lying or an idiot - those are the only two options I see
for not contacting JET.


You prefer to start a fight. I prefer he contact Pioneer. He has all the
information he needs.

Robert M. March 18th 04 10:40 PM

In article ,
(MegaZone) wrote:

"Robert M." shaped the electrons to say:
Again another perosn who hasnt followed the thread. I contacted:

DirecTv
Tivo
Pioneer and recounted that.


So you claim - and I'm not sure I believe you since you couldn't be
bothered to talk to the person who was listening.


I know: you're just insulting and TROLLing

Chris Adams March 19th 04 01:00 AM

Once upon a time, Robert M. said:
You prefer to start a fight. I prefer he contact Pioneer. He has all the
information he needs.


So you contacted him via private email (as requested) to verify that he
didn't need any more information? He asked you to contact him for a
reason (like maybe he needed more information to track down your exact
case).

Since you prefer to **** and moan here instead of actually taking
action, you are just trolling.

*plonk*
--
Chris Adams
Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.

Robert M. March 19th 04 01:08 AM

In article ,
(Chris Adams) wrote:

Once upon a time, Robert M. said:
You prefer to start a fight. I prefer he contact Pioneer. He has all the
information he needs.


I get no response from Pioneer. presumably a Tivo employee might have
more clout.

MegaZone March 19th 04 01:24 AM

"Robert M." shaped the electrons to say:
You prefer to start a fight. I prefer he contact Pioneer. He has all the
information he needs.


So you've talked to JET and know that then? He has your name and TSN?
You address? After all he needs to be able to uniquely identify you
and your account to find out why *you* received the mail.

It is really simple - if you actually cared you'd contact him.
Period.

If you can't make such a minimal effort it is unreasonable to expect
him to lift a finger.

-MZ, RHCE #806199299900541, ex-CISSP #3762
--
URL:mailto:megazoneatmegazone.org Gweep, Discordian, Author, Engineer, me.
"A little nonsense now and then, is relished by the wisest men" 508-755-4098
URL:http://www.megazone.org/ URL:http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ Eris




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