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Ryan Kawailani Ozawa November 27th 03 01:22 AM

Disable 'Revert to Live TV' Timeout?
 
Aloha mai!

Is it possible to turn off the TiVo's automatic 'Revert to Live TV'
timeout setting? That is, the behavior that - after {x} minutes of
inactivity - clears the TiVo screens and allows the live TV signal
through?

I checked the TiVo FAQs and Otto's code list and saw nothing that
might do this, although it seems like a pretty simple toggle.

We live so much in TiVo land, sometimes we just go to bed with the
'Now Playing' screen up, and - since our audio plays through a
separate component (that we sometimes forget to turn off) rather than
the TV - we're sometimes jolted awake a few minutes later when Ron
Popeil suddenly starts shouting at us about slicing and dicing.

Also, my 5-year-old daughter is quite fond of TiVo, but when she gets
to the TV before we do in the morning, she's sometimes distracted by
whatever happens to be on when she turns on the TV, rather than being
(as I'd prefer) immediately presented with the 'Now Playing' screen,
happily populated with parent-approved educational children's fare.

Heck, eliminating 'Live TV' in general would be an idea. In fact
(having not recently RTFM'd), is 'Live TV' something that can be
parental coded out?

Ryan

Jack Ak November 27th 03 01:58 AM


"Ryan Kawailani Ozawa" wrote in message om...
Aloha mai!

Is it possible to turn off the TiVo's automatic 'Revert to Live TV'
timeout setting? That is, the behavior that - after {x} minutes of
inactivity - clears the TiVo screens and allows the live TV signal
through?

I checked the TiVo FAQs and Otto's code list and saw nothing that
might do this, although it seems like a pretty simple toggle.

We live so much in TiVo land, sometimes we just go to bed with the
'Now Playing' screen up, and - since our audio plays through a
separate component (that we sometimes forget to turn off) rather than
the TV - we're sometimes jolted awake a few minutes later when Ron
Popeil suddenly starts shouting at us about slicing and dicing.

Also, my 5-year-old daughter is quite fond of TiVo, but when she gets
to the TV before we do in the morning, she's sometimes distracted by
whatever happens to be on when she turns on the TV, rather than being
(as I'd prefer) immediately presented with the 'Now Playing' screen,
happily populated with parent-approved educational children's fare.

Heck, eliminating 'Live TV' in general would be an idea. In fact
(having not recently RTFM'd), is 'Live TV' something that can be
parental coded out?


When you locate the Users Guide, look up Standby.

Lenroc November 27th 03 02:47 AM

On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:22:42 -0800, Ryan Kawailani Ozawa wrote:

Is it possible to turn off the TiVo's automatic 'Revert to Live TV'
timeout setting? That is, the behavior that - after {x} minutes of
inactivity - clears the TiVo screens and allows the live TV signal
through?


No, I don't believe it's possible. You'll just have to remember to turn
off the TV when you're done. There is apparently a way to have the "TV
Power" button on the remote additionally turn off a receiver, but I
haven't tried it. It should be in the FAQs somewhere...

Or, if you have a DirecTiVo (or one of the very few [perhaps only one
model?] standalone TiVos) that features a Standby button on the front of
the unit (and on the remote?), then you could turn it off that way.

Otherwise, it's probably too much of a hassle, since you have to dig
through the menus to put it on Standby, and you mentioned you sometimes
forget even to turn off the TV ;)

Also, my 5-year-old daughter is quite fond of TiVo, but when she gets
to the TV before we do in the morning, she's sometimes distracted by
whatever happens to be on when she turns on the TV, rather than being
(as I'd prefer) immediately presented with the 'Now Playing' screen,
happily populated with parent-approved educational children's fare.


Easy enough to fix if you have a programmable remote: Modify your Power-On
macro to press the "TiVo" button (usually mapped to "Menu" on non-TiVo
remotes) twice before turning the TV on. That's what I do ;) Not for the
same reason though, just for my own reasons.

Heck, eliminating 'Live TV' in general would be an idea. In fact
(having not recently RTFM'd), is 'Live TV' something that can be
parental coded out?


Again, I don't think so. You can use the V-Chip in the TV though...

--
Lenroc

Bao H. Lammy November 27th 03 03:25 AM

"Ryan Kawailani Ozawa" wrote
Aloha mai!
Is it possible to turn off the TiVo's automatic 'Revert to Live TV'
timeout setting? That is, the behavior that - after {x} minutes of
inactivity - clears the TiVo screens and allows the live TV signal
through?

[snip]

That feature is there to prevent screen burn-in, I believe. But,
it is easily circumvented by playing an already-recorded program
and then pressing Pause. It won't come out of that by itself.


(as I'd prefer) immediately presented with the 'Now Playing' screen,
happily populated with parent-approved educational children's fare.

[snip]
The above tip will not present the next viewer with Now Playing or
any menu screen, however. All you'll see is the paused screen just as
you left it.



MegaZone November 27th 03 03:59 AM

Lenroc shaped the electrons to say:
Otherwise, it's probably too much of a hassle, since you have to dig
through the menus to put it on Standby, and you mentioned you sometimes


TiVo - Slow - ChanDown - Select

That should do it on S2 stand alone units anyway, not sure about
others. I think the TiVo+Slow shortcut was added in 4.0.

Otherwise TiVo - ChanDown - make sure you aren't on a Gold Star, if so
Up - Select - ChanDown - Select

More of a pain because of the Gold Stars - if it was *always* there
that'd be easier, then you'd always know to go 'Up'. Being variable
is the annoying part.

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Lenroc November 27th 03 07:25 AM

On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 02:59:06 +0000, MegaZone wrote:

TiVo - Slow - ChanDown - Select


Nice, I didn't know about that one ;)

Now, if only I had a reason to put it in standby... ;)

--
Lenroc

SINNER November 27th 03 05:10 PM

* MegaZone Wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo, on 27 Nov 2003 02:59:06 GMT:
Lenroc shaped the electrons to say:
Otherwise, it's probably too much of a hassle, since you have to dig
through the menus to put it on Standby, and you mentioned you sometimes


TiVo - Slow - ChanDown - Select


That should do it on S2 stand alone units anyway, not sure about
others. I think the TiVo+Slow shortcut was added in 4.0.


Confirmed on DirecTivo DSR7000
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Jack Ak November 27th 03 07:59 PM


"SINNER" wrote in message ...
* MegaZone Wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo, on 27 Nov 2003 02:59:06 GMT:
Lenroc shaped the electrons to say:
Otherwise, it's probably too much of a hassle, since you have to dig
through the menus to put it on Standby, and you mentioned you sometimes


TiVo - Slow - ChanDown - Select


That should do it on S2 stand alone units anyway, not sure about
others. I think the TiVo+Slow shortcut was added in 4.0.


Confirmed on DirecTivo DSR7000
--
David | AGM Favorite Games - http://tinyurl.com/loec
You will engage in a profitable business activity.


Using a Philips DSR7000 remote, if you are on the DirecTV Central screen a single TiVo button
press switches to Now Playing List.

With the first generation DirecTV DVR remote, use Menu - Page Dn - Select to enter Standby.
On a next generation DirecTV DVR remote, use Live TV -TiVo - Page Dn - Select to enter Standby.

The first and next generation DirecTV DVR remotes will work with any DirecTV DVR,
so the type of remote in use dictates the minimum key press sequence to enter Standby.

Ryan Kawailani Ozawa November 27th 03 09:20 PM

Thanks, all, for the replies. The 'Standby' is a start, to be sure.
It doesn't get around the simple forgetfulness issue that prompted my
question, unfortunately. I can see the 'screenburn' concern, but I
think generally speaking a Live TV lockout (with TiVo guy
screensaver!) might be a useful feature to some.

I did discover just last night the 'pause' option, by accident. Woke
up this morning to find it still waiting in the middle of a commercial
for a Keanu Reeves film, which I'd frozen to tease my wife about. g
Good thing the TV was off this time - don't want no Keanu ghost
haunting all my viewing!

The 'V Chip' might work for some, but my problem is, there's a _lot_
of crap categorized under "E/Everyone/Kids/Whatever" that I still
don't want my kid watching. Between the Lions, Bear in the Big Blue
House (for the music) sure, Dora the Explorer and Cailou - shows that
make me want to claw my eyes out - no way!

Ryan

Phil Leonard November 28th 03 02:20 AM

In article ID ,
(Ryan Kawailani Ozawa) writes:

I did discover just last night the 'pause' option, by accident. Woke
up this morning to find it still waiting in the middle of a commercial
for a Keanu Reeves film, which I'd frozen to tease my wife about. g


That does not make any sense at all. After the 30 min. buffer is full, it
starts playing back with a 30 min. delayed. This is how my S2 works anyway. I
know because I wanted to record my buffer one time, so I had it on pause while
setting up my DVD recorder and it would not pause any longer than 30 min.
(Unless, you were recording at that time, possibly.)


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